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WHEN HE ASCENDED ON HIGH, HE LED CAPTIVITY CAPTIVE AND GAVE GIFTS TO MEN AND HE HIMSELF GAVE SOME TO BE APOSTLES, PROPHETS SOME EVANGELISTS AND SOME PASTORS AND TEACHERS FOR THE EQUIPPING OF THE SAINTS FOR THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY .. FOR THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. EPHESIANS 4:8,11.

He/Jesus has gifted men to be apostles, prophets, evangelists etc... but He is not talking about the gifts of the Spirit but the gifts of the five fold officers .. hence we are able to learn from man about the work of the ministry of the Christ but we are not able to have the gifts of the Spirit without the holy ghost granting them ... personally and sovereignly.

Gifted men are able to teach the people of God how to do the work of the ministry but no-one is able to teach you how to do miracles, healing or speak with tongues etc ... only God Himself can grant that.

Therefore the .. gifts of the Spirit, the gift of the five fold ministry office and the gift of salvation are all different. The gifts .. of the Spirit and the gift of salvation clay footed men and women are not able to give.

Men and women can equip but only the creator can gift with a spiritually natural ability to do something.. Acts 4:13.

Some things are in Fathers hand, some in Jesus hand and some in holy ghosts hands .. 1 Corinthians 12:11 * Matthew 20:20-23 * John 14:1.

For men and women to play their little games of gift giving and empowering people with spiritual gifts and abilities is nothing but devilish, satanic and the game of the little gods and goddesses of the new age movement, and would have to be damnable to say the least. It can be seen no other spiritually logical way other than .. impersonating the holy ghost.. woe!

How many religious organisations do you know of that make big, dollars, in fact millions of dollars monthly out of telling poor, ignorant church goers that they are able to operate in spiritual gifts that God has not gifted them with?... Acts 8:18-20.

Could you imagine the apostles of old, the prophets of old and the Christ Jesus studying how to possess the gifts of a ghost?. Holy Ghost.

My father is ancient of days, my brother is rock of ages and my teacher is a ghost .. hardly a quotation that would sit well in the religious establishments of the world today. As one man said to a disciple of the flock .. if you want to speak with tongues/another tongue .. all you have to do is start mumbling away and it will come to you .. really, is that what the word of God says?

Tongues are not the evidence of a saved soul but the evidence of the gift of speaking with another tongue. The evidence of the saved soul is seen in a converted life .. from sinner to saint. From world lover to heaven lover, from flesh lover to spirit lover, from money lover to God/Jesus lover ... amen.!

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